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May. 11th, 2008 12:14 pmI CALL DOWN THE POWER OF THE INTERNET!
Seriously, guys, I have about ten lessons to plan today, so I don't have time to go through Wikipedia and such. I mean, some things I know, some things are obvious, but it'd be awesome if you coulddo some of my work for me gimme a hand. :D
What I need are examples of well known monsters and how to kill/repel them. I'm doing gothic writing with the year 8s, and we're going to put together a quick monster slaying guide on the board as part of the work.
*grins*
I'm such a child.
Conflicting ideas or means of dealing with monsters is totally awesome, too.
Seriously, guys, I have about ten lessons to plan today, so I don't have time to go through Wikipedia and such. I mean, some things I know, some things are obvious, but it'd be awesome if you could
What I need are examples of well known monsters and how to kill/repel them. I'm doing gothic writing with the year 8s, and we're going to put together a quick monster slaying guide on the board as part of the work.
*grins*
I'm such a child.
Conflicting ideas or means of dealing with monsters is totally awesome, too.
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:31 am (UTC)Any use?
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:33 am (UTC)Thank you!
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:34 am (UTC)Vampires: garlic; holy water/host wafer; can't cross running water; have to keep their socks paired; need to count rice;
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:34 am (UTC)And every Supernatural episode features a monster/ghost/creature and how it's killed.
What else can I think of?
Vampire: garlic, sunlight, stake, holy water, severing the head
Werewolf: silver bullet
Frankenstein's Monster: villager with burning torches and pitchforkes
Zombie: Bullet through the head, "The Batman Soundtrack"-"Dire Straits"-"Sade"-Records (Shaun of the Dead ;)
Medusa: Mirror, sword
Oh, I'm sure you've found it, but wikipedia's Big List of Monsters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monsters
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:37 am (UTC)Another thing is dragons - there's not a specific way to kill them but mostly they have like one weak spot (or else you can go the St George route and placate them with the power of love, but that's pretty boring) and I'm sure Bellerophon killed the Chimaera in some interesting way, but I don't remember it...
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:41 am (UTC)Ghosts: Rock salt, burning bones, exorcism, fulfilling unfinished business.
Um...
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:42 am (UTC)Oh, basilisks can be killed Medusa-style (looking at themselves in a mirror) or by hearing the crow of a rooster, or (according to Leonardo da Vinci, who was probably kidding. er. one hopes.) by smelling weasel urine.
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:46 am (UTC)Kappa: (not that famous in Europe, but it's just such a *cute* little monster) If you find yourself in the clutches of this Japanese water sprite, you should bow deep to the gound. The Kappa, being a very polite creature, will have to bow too, thus depleting the water-filled depression on their forehead and being robbed of their magical powers. You could also try to offer the kappa a cucumber, since that's even more tasty than human lifeforce to most kappas.
Trolls: Often quite stupid, so trolls can be outsmarted. Traditionally, trolls are said to turn into stone if confronted with direct sunlight, so if you're accosted by trolls at night, try to stall them. At dawn, they will no longer be a threat.
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:50 am (UTC)But I'm actually pretty sure Pratchett got the vampires/poppyseeds thing from real stories. They have a thing with counting small items. Apparently vampires have OCD, who knew? And of course you can get away from a vampire just by going into a Home where they aren't invited.
Some forms of wereanimal have a human skin that they shed, which you can find and burn, or the other way round - the wolf is a skin they take off during the day and can be destroyed.
Foxes in disguise as humans - find the tail. Pixies/brownies can be kept at bay with sweet milky tribute! But if you have a possum in your ceiling you pretty much have to crawl around up there with a rifle, I'm afraid.
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:55 am (UTC)Trufax.
The Bunyip. Australian. No information on how to kill it.
The Basilisk. Killed by mirrors, as their gaze is deadly. Believed to be born when a cockerel lays an egg.
Chimera. Bloody weird animal made up of lots of other animals, in mythology killed by swallowing the red-hot lead spear-tip of some Greek hero or other.
Dragons. Traditionally the western dragon has a vulnerable spot somewhere on its body (ref. Smaug), the Oriental usually has a valuable pearl which represents its lifesource, the theft/destruction of which kills the dragon.
Harpies. Birds with the head and breasts of women. Always permanently on the brink of starvation, but unable to die or be killed.
There are many more. Tell me if you want more details.
Oh, and you mentioned Davy Jones, so - do you want anything on the Kraken? Your pupils will presumably have heard of it since it was featured in Pirates:2.
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:58 am (UTC)A very *useful* book for surprising reasons.
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Date: 2008-05-11 02:14 pm (UTC)Also, you could maybe include a caveat that this is for traditional monsters and ask them to think about books and TV shows that reinvent monsters (what it means to be a monster, as well as how to kill them). I'm specifically thinking of the recent surge in vampire reinventions in Stephenie Meyers' books and TV shows like Buffy and Moonlight. Monsters are something that are always part of a culture and I think it's interesting to see how their mythos is adapted over time.
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Date: 2008-05-11 03:46 pm (UTC)In Greek mythology, at least what we have from Ovid, it's pretty common that monsters require wits rather than pure brute strength to be conquered. Examples include the Sphinx from the Oedipus Saga (had to solve a riddle to pass), the Hydra from -- Hercules, I believe? -- who not only had to be beheaded (all nine heads) but have the wounds cauterised immediately because otherwise every neckstump grew two more heads, and the Cyclops, who Odysseus had to fool with sheep. :D There's also the Minotaur, who was defeated with brute strength but hidden in a maze that Theseus wouldn't have got out of without Ariadne's guiding thread.
These were all critters that had physical advantage on their side -- claws, size, teeth. For "real" animals, the Greeks were fine using strength, as in the Caledonian Boar Hunt, but for mythological creatures it was almost always the thinking man who triumphed. :)
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Date: 2008-05-11 06:15 pm (UTC)Disc vampires, I think, required beheading and a stake to the heart in order to remain dead for any substantial length of time. Most anything else, they can be reconstituted immediately.
Dragons: AIM FOR THE VOONERABLES!
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Date: 2008-05-11 06:29 pm (UTC)(I am curious - are you doing actual gothics, like Anne Radcliffe-type?)
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Date: 2008-05-12 04:55 am (UTC)I think Leo may have been thinking of Pliny, who claimed that to "throw the basilisks into the weasels' holes, which are easily known by the foulness of the ground, and the weasels kill them by their stench and die themselves at the same time" (thank you, Encyclopedia of Mythical Creatures!).
Weasel urine = foul stench without having to hunt out a weasel den?
Huzzah for odd bookstore purchases! :D
Date: 2008-05-12 05:53 am (UTC)Orpheus conquered Cerberus by playing a lyre. (Non-fatal, and not quite "repelling" either, but overcoming/defeating nonetheless.)
Echidna (a naga-like monster, mother of Cerberus) was killed by Argus who caught her while she was asleep.
Empusa the underworld goddess who appeared to young men as a beautiful woman, ensnared them, and drained their blood, would disappear if her victim insulted her.
Golems created by writing "Emet" (truth) on their foreheads could be destroyed by erasing the first letter, leaving "Met" (death). Those animated by a spell (often written in the creator's blood) or one of the names of God on a parchment placed in the golem's mouth could be deactivated by removing the parchment.
The Stymphalian birds of Ares, protected by brass feathers, beaks, and claws, were driven away by Hercules, who obtained brass castanets from Hephaestus, the noise of which enraged them until they flew away (and he shot several of them as they fled).
In the Middle Ages, throwing a piece of metal over a werewolf's head, or calling its human name, supposedly would make it re-transform.
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Date: 2008-05-12 11:53 am (UTC)http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/2/20/