The extended suggestion is that if Stephen Fry were some different enthographic makeup, he wouldn't have had his strop, which I simply don't think is a justifiable claim.
If you want to take the argument to the absurd conclusion, you can, but it doesn't have much basis in what I'm saying; I think "fame" probably has the most to do with his strop, but that his background has led to him not being corrected much and therefore that has also contributed to his strop. The weather, his blood sugar levels, and whether or not he had a hangover could equally well have contributed to it.
With respect, that wasn't what I asked.
Yes, but what you asked had nothing to do with our conversation. You were asking about innately female, innately black, innately "short" behaviours under the impression that I was saying that Fry was being innately male; the fact that I know buttloads of men of every sexual orientation who don't make such stupid remarks about women's sexuality would suggest that the behaviour isn't something inherent to "being male"; and I really don't think you can have "behaviour that's male in isolation to society" - if that's what you're asking - because there's no real way to have normal human behaviour without the society of the human being factored in. We're social animals! Everything around us affects the way we think.
Can you name a specific obnoxious behaviour which you would be happy described as being carried out by someone "because she's female"?
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Date: 2010-11-02 02:56 pm (UTC)If you want to take the argument to the absurd conclusion, you can, but it doesn't have much basis in what I'm saying; I think "fame" probably has the most to do with his strop, but that his background has led to him not being corrected much and therefore that has also contributed to his strop. The weather, his blood sugar levels, and whether or not he had a hangover could equally well have contributed to it.
With respect, that wasn't what I asked.
Yes, but what you asked had nothing to do with our conversation. You were asking about innately female, innately black, innately "short" behaviours under the impression that I was saying that Fry was being innately male; the fact that I know buttloads of men of every sexual orientation who don't make such stupid remarks about women's sexuality would suggest that the behaviour isn't something inherent to "being male"; and I really don't think you can have "behaviour that's male in isolation to society" - if that's what you're asking - because there's no real way to have normal human behaviour without the society of the human being factored in. We're social animals! Everything around us affects the way we think.
Can you name a specific obnoxious behaviour which you would be happy described as being carried out by someone "because she's female"?
YMMV as to what counts as obnoxious.