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nnyI wish I liked the Jack/Ianto relationship, I really do.
Ianto Jones is a fantastic character, capable and intelligent and bitchy and a romantic to a degree that isn't fashionable or particularly healthy. And he is completely under Jack's thumb; perhaps his relationship with Jack is a little more healthy than the rest of Torchwood's - since he apparently knows that there's no use fighting, that he is essentially Jack Harkness' bitch and minion and cannon fodder, should such a thing be necessary - but it doesn't make for a good relationship. If there's to be a dependent relationship, if there's to be unhealthy levels of need and an incapacity to cope without the other person I'd really rather it be on both sides, thank you.
(I guess I'm an incurable romantic, too.)
And the second unpopular opinion of the night, since I'm pondering: I don't like Love, Actually. At all. I can't really remember a single relationship that struck me as romantic, except perhaps for the porn stand-ins, because they were sort of cute.
Starting with Colin Firth. The Colin Firth storyline annoys me, enrages me, because I am not pretty. That's probably the truth of it, deep down. Love at first sight isn't something that appeals to people that look like me, to be quite frank, and the idea that someone can love someone, can be ready to marry them without having a single conversation offends me and upsets me. I suppose that the relationship would last at least long enough for them to work on a common language, for them to start to find out about each other, and there could be an argument for that. There could be an argument for that which is summed up in Four Weddings and a Funeral, when he says that people get married because they run out of things to say to each other; and then they have something to talk (argue) about for the rest of their lives. At least these two wouldn't run out of things to talk about immediately, because they know absolutely nothing about one another. You'll excuse me if that doesn't scream romance to me.
The Liam Neeson relationship thing I don't even remember - he was cute with his son and then there was OOH 'TIS CLAUDIA SCHIFFER WANT SEX NAO. Whatever.
Hugh Grant and Martine McCutcheon was likewise unmemorable, although I do remember getting mildly pissed off that the prime minister was spineless until there was a girl involved.
Emma Thompson made me cry, and I have a ridiculous crush on Emma Thompson and think she's utterly marvellous - largely, it must be said, for Sense and Sensibility and Much Ado - so Alan Rickman gets a slap for that one.
And then the guy with the signs, who I abhor. Genuinely. To undermine your best friend's relationship, the day after his wedding, with things you were too cowardly to say beforehand when it could have actually made a difference... how is that in any way romantic? If he had said it before, of course, she could have a)rejected him for a reason that wasn't 'but I just got married!' or b)told him she loved him back, in which case he would have to choose between her and his friend, in which case he would have had to grow a spine and make a decision and follow through on it.
Yeah. I don't like that film. For the record, amusingly enough, I don't really like Sleepless in Seattle either. I do like The Truth About Cats and Dogs, when the (supposedly) less attractive girl gets the guy through force of personality alone - although seriously, casting people, Uma Thurman as more attractive than Janeane Garofalo? WHAT WERE YOU SMOKING? - so you can totally attribute all of this to my deep-seated bitterness at not being pretty, if you'd like.
;)
Ianto Jones is a fantastic character, capable and intelligent and bitchy and a romantic to a degree that isn't fashionable or particularly healthy. And he is completely under Jack's thumb; perhaps his relationship with Jack is a little more healthy than the rest of Torchwood's - since he apparently knows that there's no use fighting, that he is essentially Jack Harkness' bitch and minion and cannon fodder, should such a thing be necessary - but it doesn't make for a good relationship. If there's to be a dependent relationship, if there's to be unhealthy levels of need and an incapacity to cope without the other person I'd really rather it be on both sides, thank you.
(I guess I'm an incurable romantic, too.)
And the second unpopular opinion of the night, since I'm pondering: I don't like Love, Actually. At all. I can't really remember a single relationship that struck me as romantic, except perhaps for the porn stand-ins, because they were sort of cute.
Starting with Colin Firth. The Colin Firth storyline annoys me, enrages me, because I am not pretty. That's probably the truth of it, deep down. Love at first sight isn't something that appeals to people that look like me, to be quite frank, and the idea that someone can love someone, can be ready to marry them without having a single conversation offends me and upsets me. I suppose that the relationship would last at least long enough for them to work on a common language, for them to start to find out about each other, and there could be an argument for that. There could be an argument for that which is summed up in Four Weddings and a Funeral, when he says that people get married because they run out of things to say to each other; and then they have something to talk (argue) about for the rest of their lives. At least these two wouldn't run out of things to talk about immediately, because they know absolutely nothing about one another. You'll excuse me if that doesn't scream romance to me.
The Liam Neeson relationship thing I don't even remember - he was cute with his son and then there was OOH 'TIS CLAUDIA SCHIFFER WANT SEX NAO. Whatever.
Hugh Grant and Martine McCutcheon was likewise unmemorable, although I do remember getting mildly pissed off that the prime minister was spineless until there was a girl involved.
Emma Thompson made me cry, and I have a ridiculous crush on Emma Thompson and think she's utterly marvellous - largely, it must be said, for Sense and Sensibility and Much Ado - so Alan Rickman gets a slap for that one.
And then the guy with the signs, who I abhor. Genuinely. To undermine your best friend's relationship, the day after his wedding, with things you were too cowardly to say beforehand when it could have actually made a difference... how is that in any way romantic? If he had said it before, of course, she could have a)rejected him for a reason that wasn't 'but I just got married!' or b)told him she loved him back, in which case he would have to choose between her and his friend, in which case he would have had to grow a spine and make a decision and follow through on it.
Yeah. I don't like that film. For the record, amusingly enough, I don't really like Sleepless in Seattle either. I do like The Truth About Cats and Dogs, when the (supposedly) less attractive girl gets the guy through force of personality alone - although seriously, casting people, Uma Thurman as more attractive than Janeane Garofalo? WHAT WERE YOU SMOKING? - so you can totally attribute all of this to my deep-seated bitterness at not being pretty, if you'd like.
;)
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Date: 2008-03-20 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-03-20 07:41 pm (UTC)And every single time I watch it I bawl my eyes out at the funeral scene. Every single time.
Also...I'm probably a really bad American for this but I just LOVE bad American Stereotypes. They never cease to amuse me. So when Colin goes to Milwaukee...I laugh. Billy Bob Thornton...best American President ever...in a movie! (Except for maybe Kevin Kline, in Dave)
I...yeah, it's sick.
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Date: 2008-03-20 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-03-20 07:39 pm (UTC)That's true, too. I'm just a hopeless romantic, like I say, and gayboysinlove is my favourite of all the romanticals. Hence the slash.
XD
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Date: 2008-03-20 08:05 pm (UTC)I call bullshit.
You are gorgeous. Hot. Cute. Adorable. Pretty. Sexy.
And I will beat anyone who says other wise.
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Date: 2008-03-20 11:27 pm (UTC)On a slightly related topic - have you seen Music And Lyrics? I squeed all the way through it, it is my new favourite film.
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Date: 2008-03-21 01:08 am (UTC)I actually - for me, it's not the romantic relationships that pull me into Love Actually in large part; it's Liam Neeson and his son, and Emma Thompson who makes me cry too. And admittedly set pieces like people trying to make romantic conversation over a giant papier-mache octopus.
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Date: 2008-03-21 01:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-03-21 01:14 am (UTC)(Also . . . word on the Ianto/Jack thing. I mean, I like it in some ways because it means Ianto gets more stage time than he did last season, but it is not an equal relationship and that makes me >.<)