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Teaching, I have learned over and over again as I go through training, is quite incredibly important to me. One of the things that had a huge impact on me was a Headteacher who was giving us a talk about... assessment techniques, I think; that wasn't really the part that struck me. What hit me right between the eyes was the way he looked at us in silence for a moment or two and then said "think about why you want to be a teacher. And if you can't give me a reason, give up this course right now." It is distressing how many times I've heard people say it's because of the money that the government pays us to train. It is distressing how many times I've felt pressured into saying that myself, merely because I don't have the time or the energy to go into the many and varied reasons that I do have, that are important to me.

Nothing, nothing frustrates me and angers me more, when I talk about - or hear others talk about - my job, than the idiots that say 'Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.' There is very little I have done in my life that has been harder than standing up in front of a group of 16 year olds - a group of 16 year olds who have been placed in a bottom set, who have been led to believe that education is, if not useless entirely, then at least inaccessible to them, who have lost patience with being told over and over again that their behaviour is unacceptable, their work is unacceptable, their intelligence is unacceptable - and telling them 'you should listen to me because what I have to say to you is important. You should listen to me because you can do this.' But you know what? I did it. I did it, and I got them to listen, and I got them to do work, and I got them to say - sounding surprised, and that frustrates and upsets me more than anything else - "hey, that was actually interesting!"

I love books, I love the English language, I love the incredible variety of ways that people can express themselves and the incredible variety of ways that people can reinterpret and identify with that expression. I love dabbling in new media and coming up with new ways to teach what I love so that students can start to develop their own enthusiasm for what I try to teach them. I do this because nothing makes me happier than reading something I love, except perhaps producing something in which I manage to articulate precisely what I mean to, and if I can help other people to do that...

I teach because I love it, and I teach because I can. I don't teach because of the money or the holidays or the training grant, but the stigma attached to teaching sometimes just makes it so much easier to say that.

Obviously, as with most things, you can't understand until you've done it. And I understand completely that it wouldn't be some people's cup of tea. I also understand that tea is not some people's cup of tea, although I am allowed to think you crazy for it. It doesn't dismay me that some people don't want to teach, and I'm not trying to evangelise the wonders of the teaching profession because it's a fuck of a lot of hard work, it's difficult, it's frustrating, it's tiring. But it is something that I refuse to be embarrassed about. Because the worst thing about the stigma attached is that I heard it more than at any other time in my life from people who were studying at university. The people who were supposed to be the intelligent ones, the people who didn't seem to realise that they were where they were because of teachers. No matter what they might liked to have believed, they got to that position in life because of the education they had received (as well as the privileges that came as a part of their background, but that's a whole other post) and yet it was the done thing to sneer at the people that had got them there. Fuck those people, frankly. I am proud of what I have done, and I am proud of what I have the potential to do.

And the second part of that is the hard part, of course. Because it's not just my responsibility to educate within the subject I've chosen. It's not just my place to be an English teacher, and not just because of the pastoral duties that I will have to pick up as part of my role as form tutor within the school. One of the standards for Qualified Teacher Status is to 'demonstrate the positive values, attitudes and behaviour they expect from children and young people.' Which leaves me with a hell of a lot of learning to do.

I have to not only know about the English language, but also to attempt to be a repository for all knowledge that the pupils need, or at least be aware of how I can get it. I have to be able to explain in ways that the pupils will understand why it is unacceptable to call another pupil a Jew or a gay as a term of insult. I have to explain racism carefully so that pupils understand that using 'black' as an insult is not in any way the same as using 'tall' as an insult, just because they are both things you're born with. I have to try and gently challenge the received beliefs that the pupils have come to the school with, both good and bad, and attempt to come up with ways to educate them in challenging their own beliefs. I have to constantly be aware of the fact that my beliefs and upbringing shape the way that I look at and interact with the world, too, and I have to be prepared to learn from my pupils just as much as my pupils will (hopefully) learn from me.

[livejournal.com profile] chopchica made an excellent post over here about the Holocaust and about how shameful it is how little is known about it by so many. I commented saying that stuff like that is a huge part of why I want to be a teacher, and she (very kindly!) responded that "Comments like this are why you're going to be such an amazing one." And the bitch of it is that I shouldn't be a damned exception.

Teachers cannot help but be a massively formative influence on their pupils' lives. If people choose to become teachers, then it is their responsibility to be fucking good ones.

Date: 2008-05-02 04:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
Amen, selah.

Date: 2008-05-02 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*squishes*

Date: 2008-05-02 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-rainette.livejournal.com
*beams and claps* Hear, hear.

I am so, so, so proud of you, you have no idea.

And also just a little bit proud of myself, to be entirely honest, because I knew it. I knew that you were going to be an amazing teacher. So there. :D

<3

Now, LJ, eat this comment too and I will, er. Weep, most probably. *sighs*

Date: 2008-05-02 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*fistbump of teacherly solidarity*

Date: 2008-05-02 05:02 pm (UTC)
florahart: (writing)
From: [personal profile] florahart
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach

I made this comment elsewhere not so very long ago, and I'm going to make it again here. I think, because you find this comment/truism/whatever frustrating, it may be worth a little reframing of it.

I think there is wisdom in it, when you consider it to mean this:

Those who can, right now, do this thing, should do it, and those who cannot (but previously could), because they are either past their prime, or injured, or whatever, should teach others how to do it, and maybe even have, socially, the obligation to do so.

That is, one meaning could be is that when one has a skill, and is not able to use it, one ought to pass it on. See: most professional coaches of sports, or grandmothers overseeing the season's canning of food, or even grandfathers teaching their grandkids to whittle and over time the skill passes on or shifts focus, when Grandpa's hands are arthritic but he can still tell little Johnny or Janey what could be done differently.

Anyway. I'm not saying this is what people mean by it all the time, nor even that this was the origination of the phrase. I'm only saying, if it is frustrating to hear it and hear only the condemnation of teachers, then it might be worth trying to hear it to mean this. I know a lot of folks hear it to mean "if you can't do anything worth a damn, then whee, be a teacher," and I suspect some would-be teachers understand it this way as well, and therefore expect this to be an easy job, but those of you who do take the task seriously, I choose to think that's not what it means to you at all.
Edited Date: 2008-05-02 05:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-02 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
I like that reframing of it very much. I can say with authority that this is not what was meant on the occasions I've heard it, since I have challenged the phrase where I can, and the tone in which it was said made it very evident what they meant by it. Thank you for the different perspective on it, though, and I'll try to keep it in mind - as a way of being polite when I'm trying to persuade people to see my point of view on teaching, if nothing else. ;)

Date: 2008-05-03 11:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-02 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jumperkid.livejournal.com
Yes, yes a thousand times yes.

Date: 2008-05-03 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*squishes*

Date: 2008-05-02 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frejasanne.livejournal.com
I just wish all of my teachers saw it this way. I mean, I do have a few good teachers, but definitely not all of them.

I had a teacher last year who was good at his subject and at teaching, but he's kind of horrible as a person. And my Swedish/English teacher is... Well, she's not all that good at her subjects, but more importantly, she's not a good teacher. Half the time, it seems like she's just trying to pass the time. Her classes are boring, and she can't control the class at all.

I think you'll make an awesome teacher :D

Date: 2008-05-03 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Thank you very kindly. :)

I don't see the point of being a boring teacher, seriously. And I know that sounds weird, that people think it's not something that can be controlled, but it genuinely takes about an extra half hour/hour to come up with a way to teach that'll be interesting for pupils, and as a result it'll be more interesting to teach! Shock, eh? It's totally possible to enjoy the job. And enthusiasm for your subject is genuinely something that transfers itself to pupils, too, which makes classes go - boisterously, yes, but well too. I keep getting comments about how students are contributing in my classes who usually just stay quiet, and that's one of the most rewarding things to be told. :)

Date: 2008-05-02 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] towerofwisdom.livejournal.com
I don't know how you feel about random friendings, but your post has just... wow. I really respect you for this. My mum was a teacher and later worked on providing funding for adult education, and I know how hard and how rewarding teaching can be from watching her. So yes, random friending, simply because you seem really interesting and insightful, and anyone who can teach has my fangirling respect.

Date: 2008-05-03 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
I am very in favour of random friendings, although I don't so much have time to friend people back right now, what with the teacher training (and more SGA fic challenges than I know what to do with). Possibly over the summer. :) I have to wonder how you came across the post, though?

Thanks so much, and I hope I don't disappoint by devolving back into my usual silly and stargate-squee-y self. ;)

Date: 2008-05-03 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] towerofwisdom.livejournal.com
Haha, don't worry! I don't expect to be friended back by everyone I friend, especially when their flists are already pretty big. I think I came across the post when looking through someone else's flist. Because that is, er, that kind of thing I do. /lame

And I do not think a person will all the common sense of a teaspoon can complain about anyone else being silly. :P

(And anyway, my current main fandom is rife with teenage-vampire-romance. ROFL as if I can complain about squee.)

Date: 2008-05-04 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
I read my friendsfriends page occasionally, too, although less often recently. Sometimes I just cannot bear to think about work, though, and that's the nearest distraction.

...teenage-vampire-romance? Dare I ask?

Date: 2008-05-02 06:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] genarti
As a teacher's daughter, as someone who has considered (and is still strongly considering) becoming a teacher, and more than that as someone who spent years as a student with teachers both great and mediocre (like everybody else reading this): Yes.

Yes.

Thank you, and thank you for putting this so eloquently and well.

Date: 2008-05-03 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
YAY be a teacher! *laughs* Thank you very much, especially since eloquence is one of my largest areas of paranoia. I swear it all makes sense in my head... ;)

Date: 2008-05-02 06:55 pm (UTC)
gules: (jesse "joy" spencer)
From: [personal profile] gules
I now want, very badly, to be your student.

Date: 2008-05-03 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Hee, that's so sweet. thank you!

Date: 2008-05-02 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-russell11.livejournal.com
I have always been academically inclined..always knew I was going to university just like I now know I'll go even further.Still, I am also aware I would have never gotten to this place in my life had it not been for some truly amazing people who were also my teachers. The people who were supposed to be the intelligent ones, the people who didn't seem to realise that they were where they were because of teachers. yes, that seems to be the biggest problem;people so easily forget that it had to be someone who inspired you and opened up a whole world of new experiences-we so easily criticize and gossip about bad teachers but I rarely hear someone acknowledging his/hers 2nd grade teacher for providing them with knowledge.Teachers cannot help but be a massively formative influence on their pupils' lives. yes,yes-I only wish more of my teachers had that attitude;sometimes I felt like I was literary starving for knowledge and was just waiting for my teacher to recognize it and nurture it to its logical conclusion-me being the best that I can be.I may sound corny(sorry for the long post, I tend to babble) but it doesn't make it any less true.What I'm trying to say;thank you, for everyone who benefited from your dedication and for everyone who someday will. Trust me, it is worth it-I am one of the proofs(and I made my teacher aware of her role*g*)

Date: 2008-05-03 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*grins*

I will never ever complain about long responses because livejournal is a forum for discussion and I don't have time to read as many journals as I'd like.

Thank you for thanking your teacher. I know that sounds bizarre, but I swear this is one of the most thankless professions there is - so frequently the most necessary ones are - so any moment of appreciation is worth so much.

What're you studying?

Date: 2008-05-03 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-russell11.livejournal.com
I'm currently praying to all known gods 'cause I'm trying to finish my B.A. in English literature and language and Anthropology(the teacher in question is my 6th grade teacher who first inspired me to take English as my major...and she was a great person all around*g*)I agree with you-teachers' profession really is a thankless one-I don't know why*is baffled* I, personally,think it takes an enormous amount of patience to deal with future adults...and their over-achieving and demanding parents*g*

Date: 2008-05-04 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Bloody hell, that's quite the complicated BA! Mine was in English Language Studies, and I got a 2:2 that wasn't really deserved, considering the amount of work I put in. I thought I'd come away from it without learning anything, but every now and again I'll surprise myself. XD

Date: 2008-05-04 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-russell11.livejournal.com
well,no,it isn't, not really....it just sounds complicated*g* you're right about feeling like you haven't learned anything after finishing...that's how I feel right now*frowns* but hey, I sincerely hope I'll be pleasantly surprised like you have*crosses her fingers and hopes for the best*

Date: 2008-05-02 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soupytwist.livejournal.com
The worst teacher I ever had probably put about 90% of his class off maths for life. Which, well, I feel bad for him that he was so mindbogglingly shit, but you are absolutely right that he had a responsability to realise that he was shit and get a different job if he really couldn't get anything more out of it, because he was actively messing up childrens' lives. Jesus Christ.

Date: 2008-05-03 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Yes! That is it more than anything. Teachers are so needed, but people who're crap at it shouldn't be allowed. My English teacher at secondary was so boring I fell asleep in her lessons, but I loved the subject enough that I got through it and found the best teacher I've ever had at college, but when I think about all the people who got put off by her... It makes me so very sad. X(

Date: 2008-05-02 07:27 pm (UTC)
skygiants: Clopin from Notre-Dame de Paris; text 'sans misere, sans frontiere' (comment faire un monde)
From: [personal profile] skygiants
So very, very yes.

I don't want to be a teacher because I know that I can't handle the responsibility. I'm one of those who can't. The respect I have for you, and for other people who can, and do, is pretty much without bounds.

Date: 2008-05-04 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
The responsibility does give me the screaming heebie-jeebies some nights, to be honest. After a bad lesson I'm not just beating myself up over a bad lesson, I'm beating myself up also for the potential RUINATION OF YOUNG MINDS. It's tough, sometimes. XD

Date: 2008-05-02 09:35 pm (UTC)
batyatoon: (let there be light)
From: [personal profile] batyatoon
Both of my parents are teachers, and good ones.

There are times I feel like I should be where you are now. This is one of them.

Because you're right, and more people who understand that should be going into teaching.

Date: 2008-05-04 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*squishes*

My parents... didn't seem to take all that much interest in my education, which was simultaneously bad - my work ethic sucks and I have never learned to do homework - and good - if I was working on something I worked on it HARD because it was something I wanted to do. Can't imagine living with teachers. XD

Date: 2008-05-02 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winkingstar.livejournal.com
To echo everyone else: so very, very yes.

You are an amazing teacher, I can tell already. I have huge heaps of respect and admiration for teachers like you who have the power to change people's lives and do. I've had some awesome teachers in my school days, and it makes me so mad when others don't appreciate them. They most definitely helped me get to where I am (in grad school, zomg!) and helped to develop who I am. Teachers are awesome. ♥

And also, I can totally relate to being in an under-appreciated profession. I am a librarian-in-training and we are in pretty much the same boat. Everyone just wants to Google everything now and has no understanding of what librarians actually do. Even my own dad and stepmom disapprove of my professional choice (though thankfully almost everyone else I know is more supportive). So, from one downtrodden but inspired professional to another, rock on! \o/

Date: 2008-05-04 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Teachers are awesome, or at least should be awesome. Have the potential to be awesome. Part of why I've been having such a mental breakdown over this course - the pressure is kinda huge, and it means a lot to me, so my fingernails are gnawed to the knuckle. XD

Librarians are awesome and you get much respect from my direction; I don't understand your dad and stepmum's position, I have to say, but that could be because my own mother's just so grateful that I am not shiftless and unemployed, that I have some direction, that I don't understand anyone who wouldn't appreciate that, y'know? :D

Date: 2008-05-02 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forest-rose.livejournal.com
Your students are going to be incredibly lucky to have you as their teacher. *squishes*

What hit me right between the eyes was the way he looked at us in silence for a moment or two and then said "think about why you want to be a teacher. And if you can't give me a reason, give up this course right now."

Someone said a very similar thing to us about why we wanted to be doctors. You have to have a reason, and a good one, otherwise you'd fall apart or drop out or both. I imagine it's much the same on your course.

For me, the reason is the Gandhi quote: "You must be the change you wish to see in the world."

Date: 2008-05-04 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Thank you very kindly.

That's a lovely quote and I'm gonna have to make note of it somewhere - I have a shameful lack of knowledge about Gandhi, 'tis true.

I think with teachers... it's less that you'll drop out. To be honest, they do everything in their power to prevent you from dropping out, which... that's part of the problem, maybe? I don't know. People seem to qualify and then the good ones emigrate, which leaves the education system here in kinda a sucky position. If I were a better person I'd go teach in some inner city school with dire need, but - well. Maybe I'll do it later. Not right now. But yeah - possibly more drop outs would be better in terms of the quality of teaching. Maybe not.

Date: 2008-05-03 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toft-froggy.livejournal.com
I am so delighted and inspired by this post. Thankyou. Just the fact that you care already puts you ahead - I think you'll be a fabulous teacher.

Date: 2008-05-04 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Thank you so much. :)

Date: 2008-05-03 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
If people choose to become teachers, then it is their responsibility to be fucking good ones.

Exactly. and that is why after 2 years in college I packed it in and got a job as a clerk. Like nursing it has to be a vocation. After my first teaching practice I realised I just didn't have it in me to persevere and teach children who don't want to learn. I don't have the personality to impress or the charisma to lead.

May be we should alter that saying to "Those that can, do, those that can't, teach. Those who can teach others what they can do are an exception and deserve to be cherished"?

Date: 2008-05-04 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Hee, I like the altered expression. And... now I feel faintly guilty about making the post, because I'm not meaning to say that I'm the paragon of teaching virtue or anything - it is hard to teach kids who don't want to learn, and I've been on the verge of dropping out myself. But yeah, I agree - it should be a vocation, because any less is what creates the poor teachers, I think. The teachers who just sit at the front and read a newspaper while students copy out of text books, y'know?

Date: 2008-05-04 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
Absolutely. And it's not an easy job now. The kids, parents, governors and Ofsted see to that.


Hmm, maybe "deserve to be cherished and to have a pay rise"?

Date: 2008-05-06 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sticktothestory.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] chopchica is right, you're going to be such an amazing teacher. (Thanks so much for linking to that post, BTW.) If you ever do get around to teaching the Holocaust, please, please don't let queer victims become just another footnote in a textbook - or any group, for that matter. I wish there were more time in curricula for discussion of the Holocaust; the importance of any other subject just pales in comparison.

Seriously, I would have loved to have had more teachers like you - I think the teachers one has really make or break the entire school experience. What age groups are you (interested in) working with? You're in the UK, right?

On a sidenote - and I hope you don't mind my speaking up about this - the way you used "bitch" to convey "pain in the neck" in your second-to-last paragraph struck me as being somewhat at odds with your desire to stress the importance of equality and the power of words as oppressive tools. What are your thoughts on that?

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