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Who do you reckon are the characters we should be looking out for in HP? Who d'you think has the potential to a)turn evil, b)already be evil, or c)be ruthless in a way that results in evil?

Discuss. *g*

Date: 2004-11-19 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shati.livejournal.com
Harry! Or so I hope. Wouldn't it be lovely and twisty if he turned evil? And he could still defeat Voldemort and all, but, well. Evil. But I like happy endings, so Hermione would have to overthrow him and install the Sensible Socialist Republic of Genderneutralmagic.

*. . . very sleepy*

If I had a better grasp of Harry's personality, I could say what would cause that, but all I remember is emo rage and a tendency toward passiveness that makes it hard.

Date: 2004-11-19 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Harry. That'd be good, but it'll never happen because he is CAPSLOCK EMOTING MARY SUE. More's the pity. :D

Date: 2004-11-19 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
I do not. Trust. Tonks. One. Bit.

Date: 2004-11-19 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indy-go.livejournal.com
I already knew you didn't, but WAAAAAAAH!

Date: 2004-11-19 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
*Your* Tonks I trust just fine.

And just because I don't trust her, doesn't mean I don't like her. ;-)

Date: 2004-11-19 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indy-go.livejournal.com
This is true. :D

Interesting, though...

*ponders the possibility of evil!Mways!Tonks*

Date: 2004-11-19 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
Oooooooooh.

*pokes*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
Oh, you know you'd love it. ;-D

Date: 2004-11-19 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
Bernard would prolly get off on it.

Date: 2004-11-19 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indy-go.livejournal.com
*has hatched plot*

Hold onto your hats, dears!

Date: 2004-11-19 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
Wheeeeeeee!

Date: 2004-11-19 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Oooh, now that's one I haven't heard before! Why's that?

Date: 2004-11-19 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
It has less to do with whether or not I would trust her personally, and more to do with the way that Rowling has set up your perceptions for the Universe. When it comes to good and evil, she usually shows this somehow through their physicality, and she doesn't often set up something quite as complex as a character as Tonks without using it for some other means, and we've yet to see her use her shape shifting ability for anything really other than amusing the kids at the table. So, take the fact that she could look like anybody she wants to, add in a few lines that made me weary (and of course, I can't remember off the top of my head), and - this was the big one - the night that she couldn't take the uncovered shift because she was too tired and wouldn't talk about what it was she was doing, and you've got an order of distrust from me.

Date: 2004-11-19 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofswearing.livejournal.com
Dude, she was shagging Remus. Let them have their privacy.

Date: 2004-11-20 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
I really need to read the book again, I see. Tonks is to me a character that has been redeemed utterly by fanfic. And roleplay, too. She just... she bores me, in OotP. She's got the cool hair and the amazing power and she's respected by the kids but still has a grown up job and she's endearingly clumsy so see not a Mary Sue OMG she has a fault...

Date: 2004-11-19 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snitchnip-chill.livejournal.com
You know what I was thinking yesterday? How long will it take for Flamel to get his affairs in order, and what affairs are they exactly? It's a bit out of left field sure, but JK's been known to toss things in like that.

Date: 2004-11-19 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
...okay, that's interesting. I think he'd be more likely to side with the good, though, because Dumbledore is Good. And don't get me started on Dumbledore. *g*

*STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
RON WEASLEY IS EVIL.

HE IS VOLDEMORT.

Re: *STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofswearing.livejournal.com
OMG NO. YOU ARE VOLDEMORT. I FLAME YOU OUT OF EXISTENCE.

Re: *STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
OMG EYE H8 U OMG GO B4CK 2 SUG4R QU1LL.

Re: *STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofswearing.livejournal.com
U ONLY TH1NK RON SUX BCOZ HE IZ IN THE WAY OF TEH DR4CO/HARRY T00BY BOYLUV. I FLAME U AGAIN.

Re: *STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
OMG U R S000 WR0NG U H0R. EYE SH1P HARRY/SQU1D AND EYE NO THAT THEY'RE LOVE IS MENT 2 BEE. THE SQU1D LOVES HARRY N0T ST00PID R0N W33SLEB33.

Re: *STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofswearing.livejournal.com
WH0 TAUGHT U 2 SPEL BITCA BCUZ THEY SUX0R

Re: *STARTS WANK*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
OMG FUK U. UR LIEK A BITSCHE.

Date: 2004-11-19 09:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ashen_key
Hermione. Dedicated, intelligent, shows definate signs of not listening to others when she believes that she is doing the right thing. Not to mention that there HAS to be something going on with her. I mean, no one is THAT good. Either she's a bit of a slut, or she's evil.

Not to mention she runs circles around everyone else in the damn books.

Date: 2004-11-19 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frenzied.livejournal.com
She is remarkably Voldemort like in her thirst for knowledge, but i think she's changed enough, breaking rules herself now, that she's gettign better. but i also think her convictions show her understanding of good and bad, and that she's happy with herself.

also.. the trio never really get away with things. they break rules, but there's almost always a consequence- steal the car.. broken wand- burling slugs. make a restricted potion... get turned into a cat. .. Voldemort seemed to have gotten away with an awful lot.

i think she'll turn out okay.. i'm a bit worried about Ginny. she's sort of a loose cannon. time will tell.

Date: 2004-11-20 07:51 am (UTC)
ashen_key: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ashen_key
but i also think her convictions show her understanding of good and bad, and that she's happy with herself.

Richard III in Shakespeare had convictions, so did Hitler. Having convictions and an understanding of 'good and bad' isn't enough. She's stubborn enough, passionate enough, that I think she COULD become rather nasty. COULD being the opperative word there.

Date: 2004-11-20 01:46 pm (UTC)
ext_12944: (thoughtful)
From: [identity profile] delirieuse.livejournal.com
...but her changing like that can actually make her worse. She has the Vimesian "Thou shalt not break rules" with the sekrit Vimes corollory, which is "...unless it's me doing the breaking", which, should she become self-righteous and have her moral compass lose track of reality, could be very dangerous.

Date: 2004-11-21 06:45 am (UTC)
ashen_key: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ashen_key
Which was what I was trying to say, only rather badly *winces*

Date: 2004-11-20 01:44 pm (UTC)
ext_12944: (lightbulb)
From: [identity profile] delirieuse.livejournal.com
That totally makes me want to write Evil!Hermione. Wow. *awe*

Date: 2004-11-21 06:48 am (UTC)
ashen_key: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ashen_key
*grins*

*shamlessly encourages*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofswearing.livejournal.com
I trust Percy only about as far as I can throw him. Which, actually, might be pretty far. But whatever. PERCY IS EVIL.

Date: 2004-11-19 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frenzied.livejournal.com
Percy is ... stupid. more at.. evil through stupidity than a malevolent sort of evil, yeah?

Date: 2004-11-20 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Isn't Percy too easy, though? He's deluded and it will be so emotional when he comes back to the fold... :)

Date: 2004-11-19 09:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-11-20 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Ooh, why?

*intrigued*

Date: 2004-11-20 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subliculous.livejournal.com
The fat black kid.

Date: 2004-11-20 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
*dies, diesdies*

That poor boy. He will grow up, and slim down, and he always be known as the 'fat black kid!'

Date: 2004-11-20 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subliculous.livejournal.com
evilevilE-VOLLL.

Date: 2004-11-20 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laizeohbeets.livejournal.com
Harry and Ginny have the potential to be evil. However, I don't think they will go at it.

Percy, as always.

...Has anyone thought about the possibility of Dumbledore as evil? Now THAT I want to see.

Date: 2004-11-20 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baby-duck484.livejournal.com
Personally I think that. the next Evil one will be some one your not suspecting like Justin Flitch-(forgot his name)

Date: 2004-11-20 01:47 pm (UTC)
ext_12944: (evil fandom)
From: [identity profile] delirieuse.livejournal.com
I'm sure this is going to be popular, but Dumbledore ALL THE WAY. He frightens me.

Date: 2004-11-21 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/___sasuka/
MINERVA MCGONAGALL IS EVIL OMG.


No.. seriously. Elkins has a brilliant essay on that. Now if only I could find the link!

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