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Some days I just really dislike being a mod on Milliways.

I adore the game, I love my co-mods, I have a stupid amount of affection for the characters I play, for the characters of others, and for the extraordinary muns I've met there.

And yet, no matter what I do, and no matter how hard I try, there are people who will never trust me purely on the basis of... I don't even know, actually. It can't really be precedent, because we've only made a few huge mistakes, and every time we've apologised for them. Possibly... three, in a year and a half, now. Which isn't bad, considering that none of us have done this before. Possibly it is issues that they've had with other mods at other games, which is a shame on their part but is not our fault.

It really grates to have people inform me that they don't trust, or are leery of, my modding practices, when they've never made an effort to talk to me.

If anyone has any words of wisdom that'd help, at this point, they'd be appreciated.

And no, I wouldn't have a clue what to do with IP logging if it bit me in the arse.




And I'm going to go watch Master and Commander, I think. Chilli, and Master and Commander. The applications can wait. It's been a long time since I've watched them make beautiful music together. *grins*

Date: 2005-11-27 06:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sophistry
>_<

I think the comment honestly wasn't meant as, like, a slur, dude. If one of us goes 'And Tomorrow, I Shall Mod Stuff, DUN DUN DUUUNNNN!!!!', people are obviously going to be like 'erk? Omg, have we been doing something wrong that requires mod intervention? Wuh?'

Chill, dude. You're over-reacting.

Date: 2005-11-27 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
It wasn't just that, sweet. It was that, and re-reading the anon meme, and the back room comment recently, and something someone said to me last night. I'm not particularly stressed by it, I mean, I'm not weeping into my tea or anything. It's still something that's true, though.

You feeling any better?

Date: 2005-11-27 06:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerbrat
You rock as a mod. I know it's hard to not let the bastards bring you down, but that's really what you should be doing.


Love you.

Date: 2005-11-27 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Thanks, sweet. And it's not bastards, it's just... I dunno. Thoughtlessness. Modding dehumanises, apparently.

*hugs tight*

Date: 2005-11-27 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ida-pea.livejournal.com
We haven't really talked or anything, but I think Milliways is great and I admire your dedication to it. And really, you can't please everybody all the time. You seem to be fair in your dealings with people, and sometimes that's the best you can do.

Date: 2005-11-27 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cantabile.livejournal.com
It's human nature to chip away at authority. Mods are seen as authority as by definition they have the mantle to uphold the rules. I tend to think that it's not the persona, the face behind the mod, but the authority itself that people like to have a grumble at or criticse. Easier said than done, I know, but the best advice I can give is to stand back and see yourself as different to the role. Being a mod isn't as easy as a lot of people think, and when you take into account the size of game and numbers of characters/players you are dealing with and then look at the actual amount of 'discomfort' felt, it's negligible.

Chin up!

Date: 2005-11-27 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indy-go.livejournal.com
I second all of the above. There will always be people who are dissatisfied, of leery of us for one reason or another. But the vast majority of people in this game like us, and respect us a lot. I know that. Yeah, it frustrates the hell out of me, too. But it isn't everyone all the time, you know?

*hugs*

And also, DON'T RE-READ THE ANON MEME. XD

Date: 2005-11-27 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
What Cantabile said.

And I know I don't help. Because there is nothing I hate more than people questioning me when they should obey me. And then I get Snippy. And then people cry, ABUSE, ABUSE! And then I roll my eyes, smoke a cigarette, and get on with my day.

I'm not sure what to suggest except to care less, and I don't mean care about the game less. In a general way, I don't really care if people in the game trust me or not, because at this point, the default answer is no. I know I am trustworthy, people who have had dealings know it, and those who doubt it are silly and can go play somewhere else if they have a problem that big.

You know?

Blah.

Date: 2005-11-27 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebootfromstart.livejournal.com
I haven't been in the game for a while, but one of the things I did like about Milliways was the way the mods worked. Because you guys did an admirable job, especially considering the size of the game. Yes, there were things I didn't like. That's life. There'll be other people who don't like some of your decisions, and there'll be plenty of people who do, because as far as I can tell you guys were doing an excellent job then and you're still doing an excellent job now. Milliways has what, a thousand members? No way you're going to satisfy them all.

When people say "I get paranoid", I don't think it's so much a trust issue with you as an "oh god, what if I've done something phenomonally stupid and I get talked to about it, that'd be so bloody embarrassing" thing. It's certainly the reaction I get when modly-types make posts saying they have to do modly things, because it's something that I think a lot of people are afraid of: fucking up to the extent that the mods need to Have Words With Them. It's not necessarily a matter of them distrusting you or being leery of your modding methods, it's just paranoia that they've done something.

Anyway. I should possibly stop this now, because I'm mistyping every third word. *snugs* Feel better soon.

Date: 2005-11-27 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nepheliad.livejournal.com
Me?

I looked at it and went "oh, poor Nny, that app number is awful I should make her a present."

And so I dunno why people freak out. I admit that I do, a lot, if I am pinged at random by someone who doesn't usually ping me, because I think they want to yell at me. The last time that happened? Gen had pinged me to thank me for something.

I think I'm learning?

But all four of you. Are. So. Much. Love. Sure I was scared of all of you but Josie at first, but that's just because I'd talked to her and knew she didn't hate me, and that lasted, like, a week.

Date: 2005-11-27 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-blue.livejournal.com
I have been away and missed whatever comment it was that made you post this, but... being picked apart and being distrusted go with the territory. People think mods have some ulterior motive or are on some power trip, or that they should simply be able to intuit and manage things before they become apparent, or that they're too strict, or whatever. It's part of the whole thing and it's really usually not personal.

For what it's worth, I think that you and the rest of the M'ways mods are all excellent at what you do. It's way more hands-off than I'd be able to stand and I find it both amazing and admirable. You probably know, though, that when you put on a title there will always be people who are intimidated by it and who will try to push back just because that's the way they are around authority or perceived authority. Modding is a responsibility and it can be fun, but it can also be a giant pain in the ass, and sometimes things happen from people we thought we knew that just make mods go... huh? What the fuck, mate? So, I'm rambling and like I said I didn't see whatever comment it was, but with some of those things, you really just can't give them a second thought.

Date: 2005-11-27 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanberries.livejournal.com
I have never had a problem with any mods in the game. Mostly because you are all people and have to put up with... uh, everything.

I really don't think it's a trust thing, I think it's an automatic-guilt thing. Like when the police show up and you immediately think you've done something wrong. Makes people get defensive.

Date: 2005-11-27 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avariel-wings.livejournal.com
What Abby and Amy said. It's not assuming that everything you're going to do is bad and scary - it's worrying that we've done something that needs mod intervention.

Date: 2005-11-27 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shati.livejournal.com
I will never trust you!!111 And you smell bad!

Also, CD mix inna mail. For you!

Date: 2005-11-27 09:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ashen_key
People are Silly. It is a Thing, sadly.

Words of wisedom? From me?

Um...are sadly lacking. But, *hugs*

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