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I think I could deal with hatememes more if they were constructive.

I would quite like, I think, to be told that not I was hated, but something about my fic, my posting format, my personality. Something I could work on.

Whereas... hatememes just get bitter. Every now and then a good point is made, but it tends to be about someone who won't allow themselves to hear it. They'll just go and whine about it on their journals, and then their fans (because this kind of thing does tend to involve fans) will come and defend them, and that's where the trouble starts. Vitriol starts boiling, and people get needlessly mean, and feelings genuinely get hurt. And I don't really see the need for that.

Maybe because I'm too easily hurt myself.

Then again, it's entirely possible that were I to post such a meme it'd get no comments because it's easier to defend yourself by saying, oh, it's a hatememe, the people who post to them are all irrational and trying to be big', or whatever people say to rationalise such things. That's much easier than hearing something that one can do to improve oneself. It always is.

I dunno, what do you think?

And I'm gonna stop typing now because my hands are shaking and my fingers keep missing the keys.

Date: 2006-01-05 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nepheliad.livejournal.com
I think I agree, and also that I'm afraid to look at that meme.

Due to the most recent post in my LJ, mostly.

I wish that when people had problems with me, they'd TELL ME, so I can change it.

Date: 2006-01-05 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
Well, those memes aren't really about constructive criticism or helping people improve...they're about venting, I guess, or sniping, or cutting people down a peg. I guess there's a value to them that way, but I'm just not that interested. People are always going to rub each other the wrong way, that's not news. I read about half of it and got kind of bored and kind of annoyed with myself for even looking- I work hard at avoiding things that just stress me out without having any rewards in return, y'know?

Date: 2006-01-05 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-ntropy.livejournal.com
Personally, I find them cowardly.

Date: 2006-01-05 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dramaturgca.livejournal.com
I don't really they serve any useful purpose. I trust the opinions of people who come to me and are willing to have a discussion a lot more than those who post in a hatememe.

Date: 2006-01-05 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant8.livejournal.com
After fanfic_hate, I do not read hate memes, I do not click on them, I do not acknowledge their existence, I go lalalala I can't hear you when they're mentioned, because the other option was to leave fandom forever.

If you were to post a paragraph or a page and say, "Please comment and tell me one way I could make this better," I imagine you'd get friendly and useful responses, though.

Date: 2006-01-06 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vimeslady.livejournal.com
I've never seen a hate meme.

But what I think is that you should get more rest and you should NOT go back to work.

/Mother Hen

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