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Feb. 11th, 2007 09:34 pmOMG FLAIL, DUDES!
Okay, so, Traders. New fandom by accident, if you can call it a fandom when I've not really read any fic yet. And I got into it for teh Hewlett, who plays an adorably unbalanced idiot savant type, except there's these two other guys in it called Jack and Donald. And they do bad French accents at each other when they're drunk! And they always do the guiding hand thing on each other's backs!
Plus, any pairing gets 50 OTP points, according to
soupytwist, if one of them refers to the other (when absent) using the formula 'What Would [Name] Do?' (ref: John Sheppard, you big gay flyboy).
And then of course there's the following two exchanges (paraphrased):
Jack: You can't fire Donald.
Adam: If the deal is off, Donald's out.
Jack: Donald's gay.
Adam: [long silence] ...people get fired for being gay.
Jack: People get sued for firing people who're gay.
A little later:
Donald: How did you do it?
Jack: Do what?
Donald: Save my job?
Jack: Oh, I just told Adam how indispensable you are.
Donald: So you lied.
Jack: [clears throat] I don't know...
Heeeeee. Man, I need fic. :D
Okay, so, Traders. New fandom by accident, if you can call it a fandom when I've not really read any fic yet. And I got into it for teh Hewlett, who plays an adorably unbalanced idiot savant type, except there's these two other guys in it called Jack and Donald. And they do bad French accents at each other when they're drunk! And they always do the guiding hand thing on each other's backs!
Plus, any pairing gets 50 OTP points, according to
And then of course there's the following two exchanges (paraphrased):
Jack: You can't fire Donald.
Adam: If the deal is off, Donald's out.
Jack: Donald's gay.
Adam: [long silence] ...people get fired for being gay.
Jack: People get sued for firing people who're gay.
A little later:
Donald: How did you do it?
Jack: Do what?
Donald: Save my job?
Jack: Oh, I just told Adam how indispensable you are.
Donald: So you lied.
Jack: [clears throat] I don't know...
Heeeeee. Man, I need fic. :D
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Date: 2007-02-12 07:15 pm (UTC)I've been a fan of Traders since it first aired: it's such a deserving show and it's been great to see it finding a new audience among Hewlett/SGA fans.
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Date: 2007-02-12 07:32 pm (UTC)It's fascinating! I obviously got into it for DH, and Grant is utterly adorable, a fantastic character that I'd love to fic purely for the fun of his mental voice. But it's genuinely an excellent show, and all the characters are totally involving, and I've just finished the first season and am all edge-of-seat-y. :D
I don't suppose you know of any fic? I've scrolled quickly through
*grins*
It's genuinely surprised me. Boiler Room did the same thing; stocks isn't something I ever saw myself being particularly invested in (sorry, sorry. I know.) but this is just cool.
Traders
Date: 2007-02-14 05:56 pm (UTC)It's such a good ensemble! The cast changes over time (some of the lead actors left to star in bigger-budget American series that unfortunately flopped) but for the most part the show just gets tighter as it progresses.
Rewatching Traders recently--from a fannish perspective this time around--was fascinating, because in so many ways it's like a ficcer's playground. Grant alone incarnates so many favourite fannish tropes, but in addition to that, there are all the relationships to play with--and, without wanting to spoil you as to details, this is the kind of show that canonically throws things like long-running het D/s plotlines and disturbing dubious-consent m/m into the mix for its lead characters. And that's not even mentioning the porn episode. ;-)
I don't suppose you know of any fic? I've scrolled quickly through gardner_ross and can't find anything else anywhere, and I'm kind of craving.
Sadly, there's not much out there. Hmmm...I just tried searching "grantjansky" and "traders grant" on del.icio.us (http://del.icio.us) and pulled up a few stories I didn't recognize from GR--you might want to check those out.
One problem with Traders from a m/m-slash-ficcer's perspective is that many of the canonical het relationships on the show are so strong, and so important to the male characters especially, that they're not easily dispensed with in favour of a m/m-slash pairing. If you've finished S1, then you've seen the significance of Ann to Jack, and Barb to Marty, but there are other het relationships in later seasons that are equally challenging to write around.
Not that this is a problem *except* from a slash-ficcer's perspective, of course: the strength of the female characters on Traders is one of the reasons I like it so much. :-)
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Re: Traders
Date: 2007-02-14 06:08 pm (UTC)*giggles*
Re: Traders
Date: 2007-02-15 06:52 pm (UTC)I can see scope for slash, purely for how much of the show is left out - apart from the main few it's really rare to see anything of them beyond the confines of GR itself - unless that changes, of course, since I'm early on in the second season. But to be honest there are a hell of a lot of non-slash stories that I'd love to see told.
I loved the decision to have Susannah allow her husband custody of their daughter, and the last few moments between Adam and his wife - the show isn't afraid of having their characters be seen in a bad light, sometimes, or of having things turn out crappy. It's not like Scrubs, with everything turning out okay and a moral to the story at the end of every show, y'know? I also love the snippets of backstory that're appearing through time, because there's potential for writing with every snippet of information.
Like... Grant and Donald, for instance. They arrive to work together, so how did the moving go? How did Donald react to wherever Grant was living before, and how does that mesh with him having lived in the park? Did Jack help him find an apartment when he started working there, and how much smoothing over did he have to do with the cranky old landlady? How do they get to work in the morning, for that matter? Seriously, I love Grant as a character so very much, and I love that he and Donald are genuinely friends, and I'd happily read gen stories about 'em. Also Jack - Jack's relationship with Grant is intriguing purely because it seems like there must be so much that we don't see; they don't interact so much in the show, but Grant seems almost to depend on him, and taking that out of the context of GR would be cool to read. Or write, I guess, if there's not that much available.
I can still see Donald and Jack having something of a conflicted relationship, though. Possibly in the context of the first season; I'll see how my perspective changes as I go through.
Re: Traders
Date: 2007-02-19 08:41 pm (UTC)Very near the end of the final season, there's an episode ("Money Shot") in which Sally's considering financing an adult-film production company. A female friend of hers from way back is one of the partners and at first things are all whee! feminist porn!...then complications arise.
Along the way, there is much hilarity in various characters' responses to the enterprise. (There's one zinger of a line that you might not get if you're not Canadian: in an attempt to reassure Adam, who is aghast at the thought of investing in such a business, Sally says, "If it makes you feel any better, the company's owners are a couple"--to which Scooter mutters, "So were Paul and Karla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo).")
It's not like Scrubs, with everything turning out okay and a moral to the story at the end of every show, y'know? I also love the snippets of backstory that're appearing through time, because there's potential for writing with every snippet of information.
It's definitely an extremely rich source text, and quite uncompromising in showing what the stresses and demands of these jobs can do to the characters' lives outside the office--the glimpses we get of those outside lives become increasingly painful as the series progresses.
To say more would be to spoil things, though--you've got some great viewing ahead of you!
(And Grant/Zelenka sounds charming!)
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Re: Traders
Date: 2007-02-25 07:20 pm (UTC)It's all... doomy!