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[nny]

As I say this, please remember I've only seen up to Houses of the Holy so please don't spoil me for anything beyond there, 'k?

The thing about Supernatural that gets me - well, there were two things, actually, but the second thing has been dealt with over the past few episodes and added an entirely interesting layer of Peril! to the show, so I'm pleased with that - but the thing that gets me is that Sam and Dean really don't seem to have a conversation outside of what we see on the show.

Frequently the show will end with some kind of dramatic statement and... it's almost as though it's not questioned further. Dean will say something, Sam will look pensive, and then next week they're back in the metallicar and bopping to the hair metal. Now I understand that it is necessary to show exposition in order that the audience can catch up, but really sometimes it's bordering on the Pretty Durned Clunky and that pokes at me a little. 'cos when it comes down to it I really do love this show.

I dunno... there's hideously clunky exposition on Stargate: Atlantis, too, but there're also fragments of conversation and games and indications that these people have lives outside of what they do, and outside of the show, and sometimes I find that kind of hard to believe with the Winchester boys.

Possibly, though, this is something to do with the amount of fanfic I read in SG:A. Haven't got around to SPN, yet; somewhat wary of Wincest.

I use this icon entirely gratuitously, by the way, because I haven't yet found a Winchesters icon I liked, and because Brendan Dean is dorky love.

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[muji]

I have nothing useful to add to the SPN discussion.

BRENDAN DEAN MAKES ME HAPPY.

[villainny.livejournal.com]

Brendan Dean makes everyone happy. Especially when he's got cough syrup!

Also, he's like Cordelia in that his internal monologue matches up with what he says, often, and I love him for that very much. :D

[muji]

Wish mine did that.

[silveraspen]

That's interesting. Hm.

I always feel that there are the pieces that go on underneath/behind the scenes that we don't see -- but I've never doubted that they're occurring.

And oh, boys. So much of their lives is the job; is all that we do see, now. They don't have that much of a life outside what they do, not any more.

I make no sense. HUZZAH!

[villainny.livejournal.com]

I'm not denying that there are definitely things we don't see, but they're generally influences from long ago or far away. I don't know; anything referenced outside of what we see on camera only ever seems to be things from their childhood that are a revelation to the other, too. It's true that their life is the job, and I guess it's true too that they're quite phenomenally bad at communication. Just... everything underneath/behind the scenes seems very much internal.

Humph, I'm sick, I can't quite articulate what I mean. I love them, I love their relationship, but at times it seems a little too much written. Superbly constructed but not quite possible to divorce from the 'fiction' label and therefore slightly more distant than other things I've watched. It's a personal thing, probably.

:D

[spuffyduds.livejournal.com]

I get what you're saying, here.

(And, coincidentally, I just yesterday got up to "Houses of the Holy.")

Also, anything they bring up "outside" of that week's story is usually directly in service of the plot. Not just some goofy story about the janitor at that school they went to in Michigan for a few weeks, who if he caught you sticking gum under the desk would put it in your HAIR. Or something like that. It's all dad and mom and demons, and pretty directly related to the current show.

There's no--did you ever watch Buffy? Do you remember the "be my deputy" scene with Xander and Willow? (If you don't--it was a short scene with those two that, while it illustrated the THEME that Buffy was feeling disconnected from her friends and all their long history together, had nothing to do with the plot or the monster of the week. They were trying to tell Buffy about some incident in grade school, and they were so sent into hysterics by remembering it that they couldn't ever TELL it--they just kept collapsing with giggles and garbling, "Be my deputy!" at a bewildered Buffy. It was insanely cute, and, watching it, I utterly believed that they had known each other since they were five.)

Anyway. I don't get that with the Winchesters.

That said, I am hugely enjoying the second season, and I think the acting and writing is getting better all the time, and, uh, there's pretty. And *flail* RON!!!!!

[villainny.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm totally not going to complain about the show as a whole. It's totally filling the HOLE in my life that was left when I stopped watching the X-Files. (I stopped watching when Krycek got dedded. I'm not above admitting I'm shallow - it got crap a long way before that, but Krycek was kinda purdy.)

I still love their brotherly relationship and all that, I love the emotional dynamics that there are indications that we should see, I just don't feel as connected to it as I'd like to. I think it could maybe be written differently to make me feel it.

And no, I don't remember that scene but man I wish I did. I loved Xander&Willow ridiculously. :D

[jumperkid.livejournal.com]

I was so distracted by Joe Flanigan's pretty, pretty face I almost missed the "Scooby-dooby-doo" across the top. That is AWESOME. Brendan FTW!

Um. I sort of have think-y SPN thoughts, but I don't really have time to actually sort them all out. Maybe later? Mostly I'm just here for the pretty...

[villainny.livejournal.com]

Brendan is stupid amounts of love. :D

Later is good! I need to practice the akshooal and proper discussions thing, since my fandom thoughts are always jumbled and unhelpful.

[fahye.livejournal.com]

CATHEDRAL WINCHESTERS? *proffers*

[villainny.livejournal.com]

Hahahahahaha Winchester Cathedral is so enormously one of my very favouritest places in the world.

XD

[villainny.livejournal.com]

Also: GIC

[pinkfinity.livejournal.com]

If you're wary of the wincest but still want to try spn fic, take a peek at big_pink's novel-length fics - you can read Red and Dazzleland if you're past Croatoan.