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Regulus = the sun. He kinda had to be more important than just Sirius' brother, yes?

So... working on the assumption that Regulus was the one who took the locket, which makes sense considering the initials and the unopenable locket in Grimmauld Place (both of which are theories I've read elsewhere)... everyone's trying to work out who went with him, it seems, since Dumbledore decided that no one could do it on their own. But. Perhaps it's only that he couldn't do it on his own, because any other way would involve dark things that he wouldn't choose to dabble with.

We already know that Regulus wasn't averse to dark things - his family, and the fact that he's a Death Eater kind of makes that obvious. And although he made a choice not to remain with the DEs, that doesn't mean that he would completely disdain the dark arts if it was something that would work in his favour. Maybe the Blacks had some kind of artefact that would assist in the stealing of the locket. Maybe it was something he took from Voldemort, something that was taken back before (Voldemort thought) it could be used?

Because the potion, see. It was still there. Presumably Voldemort doesn't know that the locket was taken - one would assume, if seven is such an important number, that he would have made another horcrux to replace it, or some such. Therefore the potion wouldn't have been replaced if Regulus had drunk it.

So I think he had some other way of getting around it, which is why he was able to do it on his own.

Just a thought.

Date: 2005-07-18 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gentleman.livejournal.com
I say he forced a house elf to drink it.

I know I'd have made Kreacher drink it, if I were Harry...

Date: 2005-07-18 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*cracks up* Also a valid possibility.

Date: 2005-07-18 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marksykins.livejournal.com
I just said that on [livejournal.com profile] sociofemme's journal! And Kreacher would have been glad to do it, I bet.

Date: 2005-07-18 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Kinda depends on the actual nature of the potion. Although it would be easy making a house elf drink it, which is definitely a benfit.

But how did the potion reappear?

Date: 2005-07-18 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyllama.livejournal.com
I'm interested in Slughorn's involvement too. I mean, how else would Regulus have found out about it?

Date: 2005-07-18 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
That's true - I hadn't really thought about that. It wouldn't be common knowledge due to the whole... complete lack of trust from Riddle.

That said, why didn't he Obliviate Slughorn? He left a gaping hole in his defenses there, which arrogance alone doesn't account for.

Date: 2005-07-18 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gentleman.livejournal.com
Slughorn has some measure of Occlumancy, it seems, which might peform a defense against Obliviate. Not to mention- Tom was still at school at that point, and I'm not entirely sure he'd want to risk it. Or indeed know how to Obliviate that specifically- I think this is pre-Chamber, and Obliviate and other mind magic doesn't seem to be taught until the last year of Hogwarts.

Date: 2005-07-18 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
But presumably an Obliviate doesn't need to be done directly after the event in question?

Or does it? That might make sense, actually. It'd be hard to zone in on particular thoughts unless they were particularly close to the surface of the mind.

*ponders*

Date: 2005-07-18 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gentleman.livejournal.com
I'd say it's not impossible, but it's certainly harder to Obliviate a buried memory. And it's likely that Voldemort values Slughorn- he does try to recruit him as a Death Eater after all. Obliviation is a rather tricky spell, I suspect- you don't do it unless it's desperate (Shacklebolt Obliviating Marietta) or the target is considered expendable (Muggles!).

And that would make sense in terms of the poisoned mead and so forth- they really were aimed at Slughorn, so that he doesn't let slip the secrets of how many Horcruxes were created.

Date: 2005-07-18 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
Aha, the mead! I hadn't thought of that. It's an excellent point.

I think... Hmm. I don't think Slughorn would make a good DE. He has too much of an ego. It tallies with him wanting powerful friends, certainly - he's almost like a Pettigrew in that way, but with added arrogance. I don't think he'd be willing to bow to a pupil, no matter how powerful.

That said, that wouldn't necessarily dismiss the possible recruitment, since Voldemort is an ego on legs.

Sorry, my thoughts are all rambly and not very well connected. I'm not good with the organisation. XD

Date: 2005-07-18 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com
*giggles* He's such a dude.

Date: 2005-07-18 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immora.livejournal.com
Hahahaha, pimpin' Wilde XD That is too fun!

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